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Question:
I have a 9 yr old gelding who will buck on occasion when asked
to canter. I never know when he is going to do it and Im never
sure why he does it. He has been in training for 2 years and
is ridden 4 times a week. Recently he bucked very agressively
and while cantering. Why do horses do this and what would
cause him to do it only sometimes. I always lunge him well
before mounting. Can this be cured?? What is the psychology
behind this behavior? Thanks
Answer:
Hello, What kind of buck? Is it a yee-ha lifting of his backend
or a real heads down stiff legged bowed back rocking buck?
If it's the 1st kind then I usually see this kind of kicking
up the heals when the horse feels good and it seems to be
mostly playful. Or at least starts that way - if the rider
gets unbalanced and or frightened and pulls up the horse when
it does this then the horse associates the action with getting
to rest (i.e. stop cantering) and the behavior can get more
serious as time goes on. When I have a horse that does this
I usually give a sharp verbal reprimand along with a quick
kick in the side and make them keep going and if possible
pick up the speed a bit. Once they've relaxed and are going
nicely for several strides then I let them stop and give a
pat and soft verbal praise - they seem to quickly associate
the "kicking up the heels" with more work not less and cut
it out. Make sure to not let him do this on the lunge line
either - if he bucks on the lunge line go after him and make
him work harder until he stops the nonsense then take the
pressure off. If the bucking is the 2nd kind then that is
a different issue all together and my advise is to get him
to a trainer quick - or sell him to the rodeo. Amber
Followup
Question: Thank you Amber. I think this most recent buck
was from enthusiasm as you described first, but the buck started
first as a wahoo little one when we first took off cantering,
but it then escalated to 2 more strong bucks until I flew
off. That type of buck to unseat me has only happened once
before since I got him 2 years ago and it happened when I
got on him bareback. I mounted him again after he threw me
and he didnt offer to buck again, How do I fix this bucking
thing if he keeps bucking until Im off him? It isnt a regular
occurance but it only takes one wreck to get hurt. What do
you think?
Answer:
A horse that deliberately bucks off a rider - not just the
yea-haw I'm feeling good kind of buck - always has the potential
to buck you off and there is no sure way to guarantee that
they won't do it again. Just like a horse that pulls back
when tied and breaks the lead line - that horse no matter
how much you train it will always have the potential to pull
back. Of course there are training methods you can apply that
will minimize the chances but just when you think you've got
it worked out of them something stimulates them and they pull
back or buck. A training tool to help minimize the buck or
stop the buck when it starts would be to condition the horse
to come around your leg in a small circle. You start in an
arena and pull the horses head around to your knee - make
sure that the opposite rein is completely loose and do a pull
and release motion making sure to release only when the horse
gives a bit. Pretty soon the horse should bring his head around
to your knee when he feels a slight tug. Then ask the horse
to make small circles in the direction of his head while keeping
his head pretty tight to your knee - once again with the pull
and release - you don't want him just hanging against the
rein. Make sure to circle right then circle left, then right,
then left, etc. The goal is to have the horse following his
nose and doing very small circles and changing the circles
to the right and left in a very relaxed supple way. Now bump
the movement into trot. The goal is to create a Pavlov response
in the horse and then use it in your training. Anytime the
horse gets excited or isn't listening you pull his head around
an have him do small circles. Starting in a safe calm environment
arena you then increase the pressure or stimulus with other
horses or distractions and each time his attention wanders
from you then you pull him around. If you do this properly
and increase the pressure gradually you can significantly
reduce the occurrence of his bucking episodes - but never
complete eliminate the potential for them. Amber
Followup
Question: What a blessing you are! Thank you so much for
the info Amber Your advise makes good sense and I will try
this. This horse is normally very well mannered and cooperative,
90% of the time..In the 2 years Ive had him he has only done
this big buck thing twice, but the crow hop stuff more often,
but only going into canters. (even on lunge) I was told by
the past owner of this problem but my trainer seemed to think
it was from poor handling and it was inconsistent with his
temperment. We had actually cured even the crow hop thing
for the past year.>>>until yesterday! No one was there with
me to see it so I have no other analysis but my own. He has
a very high excitement level. I just wish I knew if this was
exhuberance or bullying.I thought if a horse had a bond with
his owner he wouldnt do such a thing. (???) What do you think?
I had established a great level of trust with him and was
just getting to "let down" some apprehension this summer and
this is a real set back. Ill work on your suggestion and thank
you so much for being helpful and so prompt as well. I hope
I dont need this kind of help in the future (!) but if I do
I will write to you again. Glenda
Answer:
Hi Glenda, I'm glad my feedback is useful. Make sure to go
slowly and in a very calm and safe environment for the both
of you. One problem with a horse that has bucked you off is
that you get nervous riding them and the horse senses this
and takes advantage of the rider's lack of confidence. This
is a problem even trainers have - I've been bucked off some
training projects and it takes tons of resolve to get back
on with a confident attitude and push the horse past the resistance.
Go slow - no horse is worth serious injury and if you can't
get back to where you feel relaxed and confident then you
should sell the horse and not risk it. Regarding the "bonding"
- I do think horses can develop a respect and liking for their
humans but it is dangerous to think that just because we love
them, feed them treats, buy them nice warm blankets, etc that
they love us back. They love the food we give them and respect
us if they feel we are dominant over them but that's about
it. As a matter of fact I find that when I observe people
with the horses they say "love them" it usually involves the
horse being very disrespectful. I.E. horse walks right up
to the human, puts mouth on the human, rubs head on the human,
etc. We as humans translate body contact with affection -
in the horse world all of these behaviors are a way of communicating
dominance - if the other horse doesn't object it is accepting
the lower status which might not create a problem until the
human then tries to push the horse into doing something it
would rather not do. Good Luck, Amber
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